Nate Krupp’s Response to Lee Grady of Charisma and simple church

Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 12:57 PM
To: KRUPPRadChr – 1
Subject: June Charisma

From: Nate Krupp []
I recently forwarded to you two articles (that had been forwarded to us)that appeared in the June issue of Charisma magazine that were favorable to the house church concept. Our issue finally arrived and we discovered that the Editorial was quite negative. I have written the following letter to Charisma –

June 1, 2006

Mr. Lee Grady, Editor
Charisma magazine
600 Rinehart Rd.
Lake Mary, FL 32746

Dear Brother Grady,

Greetings in Jesus’ Name!

I have read with interest the two articles (“God is Out of the Box” and “George Has Left the Building”) and your editorial regarding new church paradigms in the June issue of Charisma. Thank you for your courage to get into these matters.

I must say that I do not agree with your editorial. The house church folks that I know – and I know many – are among the most deeply spiritual people I have ever met. They have left the traditional church in obedience to GOD in favor of a more New Testament paradigm .

As for “biblical structure and New Testament order” I’m not sure what you mean. If you mean the spontaneous way the meetings develop, that’s what the Scriptures teach – 1 Corinthians, chapters 12-14, summarized in 14:26. They are not “loosy-goosy revolutionaries” but people who have learned to hear His voice and be led by Him. It is a real joy to see Christ¹s Body being led by Him rather than by man.

If you mean leadership, most groups know who their elders are. And the believers are learning what it means to truly submit to one another.

If you mean outside input, most groups have apostolic and prophetic input from a number of traveling ministries. I have spent many years helping new house church groups get started and giving input to existing groups. I know deeply what I am talking about.

I do agree that some who have left their local churches have done so as a result of being wounded by controlling pastors, and, because of that, are bitter. We have had to minister to many of them, helping them to forgive and to be healed.

I have ministered on every Continent for over 45 years and have been part of many major new things including the personal evangelism emphasis of the 60’s, the charismatic renewal of the 70’s, YWAM, the city church emphasis, etc., and I must say that the current, developing, world-wide, house church movement is the most biblical, spiritual, workable, simple, easily reproducible, growing, Christian movement in the world. I believe it is the missing link to fulfilling the Great Commission.

Please take another look – for your sake and the sake of your many readers.

GOD bless you, my brother.

Yours in Christ,

Nate Krupp

Nate and Joanne Krupp, 2121 Barnes Avenue SE, Salem, OR 97306, USA Telephone
503/585-4054, Fax 503/375-8401 Check our web pages at

“But seek first His Kingdom and His righteousness, and all these other
things shall be added to you.” – Matthew 6:33

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The above blog post was written at a time when I was eclectic in my theological & biblical views and understanding.  As of 5 February 2017 I am a functional cessasionist, that is, I believe the spiritual gifts, in particular gift like the vocative, prophetic gifts as well as healing & miracles have ceased. This means that my understanding is that at the end of the apostolic era, when the last apostle died (that would be John who was at Patmos & Ephesus, the author of the Gospel of John, Epistles of John & the Revelation of Jesus Christ, with his passing, the need for these particular gifts, the oracles of God given to men through the Holy Spirit, were no longer required.  With the forming of the Canon of Scripture, there came to be no need for revelatory gifts. In fact in Revelation, John himself records the words of Jesus, “18 I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book. 19 And if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his share of the tree of life and the holy city, which are written about in this book.” [Revelation 22, CSB]

God is sovereign, still heals, still manifests in the miraculous, but not at the whim or the discretion of men. We pray and ask the Lord, and then we yield and surrender to His will, echoing the words and the spirit of Christ, “Not my will but your will be done.” [Luke 22:42].

I embrace and hold to a Reformed understanding of theology & Christian living in the world. I have abandoned my other views entirely. I would be more akin to a Reformed Baptist (1689 Confession) type of Reformed theology. I used to be a continuationist (akin to John Piper) but no longer.

God bless you as you seek to know Christ and the power of His resurrection [Philippians 3:10 CSB].

In the eternal grip of Jesus,

Samuel M. Buick

Waterloo, Ontario

29 January 2018

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About Sam Buick

A lover and disciple of Jesus Christ. Married to my best friend, Lori-Anne. Father to 3 incredible daughters, Carragh, Caitlin and Erinn, and sons-in-law Alex Barry, and Stephen Davis. An avid reader, a Droid user, a Mac addict, a lover of footy ball and football (there is a difference), and hockey. Once a soldier. Once a youth worker. Once an ordained minister. Once a claims adjuster. I don’t mind labels, labels define what type of Christian I am: I am a creationist I am a monergist I am a Trinitarian I am an imputationalist I am a Calvinist I am a cessationist ~ Samuel M. Buick
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